艾米·波勒（Amy Poehler）在圣丹斯（Sundance）纪录片《露西和德西》（Lucy and Desi）上，并向主持奥斯卡（Oscars）“开放”
Amy Poehler on Her Sundance Documentary ‘Lucy and Desi’ and Being ‘Open’ to Hosting Oscars
信不信由你（实际上，可能很容易相信），曾经有一段时间，孕妇被认为太过易于广播电视。当露西尔·鲍尔沃斯（Lucille Ballsmememememexrush）到医院开设Bertheron“我爱露西”（Lucy Lucy）时，这是一段开创性的情景喜剧，这是她现实生活中的丈夫Desi Arnaz并在表演业务上留下了不可磨灭的印记。“ Lucy and Desi，”导演艾米·波勒（Amy Poehler）的一部新纪录片探索了两个喜剧偶像的名声，并持续了两个喜剧偶像，他们打破了障碍并颠覆了对成为一对全美夫妇的意义的期望。在1月22日在圣丹斯电影节上首映之前，前“星期六夜现场”和“公园与娱乐”明星向综艺节目谈到了她深入了解所有事物，鲍尔和阿尔纳兹，令人印象深刻的长寿“我爱露西”（Lucy） - 一场演出，该节目于1951年首次亮相，并继续在重播中找到粉丝 - 她对Tiktok的亲和力。您对Directin感兴趣多年来，有关露西和德西·卢西尔·鲍尔和德西·阿尔纳兹的纪录片已经被弄平了，并制作了二维。我真的有兴趣看到图像背后的人。人们使用诸如“天才”和“图标”和“开拓者”之类的词，但这些不是人类的话。[笑]这些是机器和宇航员的话，当然，他们都是宇航员，而且他们已经领先了。但是他们也是人。“拥有他们的关系是一个平等的胜利，”导演艾米·波勒（Amy Poehler）谈到鲍尔（Ball）和阿尔纳兹（Arnaz）。他们是表演者，而不是作为人。在妇女和移民没有运行该系统的时候，这两个令人难以置信的局外人努力工作，使其成为强大，有影响力的人物。但是归根结底，试图讲述一个爱情故事：他们的漫长旅程他们的表演在恋爱中坠入爱河，工作和彼此相爱。然后，要观看美国最强大的夫妻（他们创造了一对力量夫妇的想法）在电视上分裂，这是情况下的情况，这很有趣。他们的作品和喜剧是如此之多，应该如此。但是我也认为拥有一种关系是他们所拥有的关系，这也是一个平等的胜利。很难保持工作关系，以及与您所爱的人的关系，并且是您抚养孩子的伴侣。好莱坞和工作室系统的结构现在大不相同。关于娱乐行业的变化方式，您对您有什么脱颖而出？谢天谢地，还有一些直接进入事物的机会。我们对妇女，职业妇女，尤其是在职母亲的问题，判断和预测没有改变MUCH。我当时想，“哇，我们从事多么不同的行业。有很多机会，尤其是有色人种。”然后也喜欢，“哦，我们只是在做同样的事情。我们正在对人做同样的假设。”这是一个奇怪的组合，“看看我们走了多远”，然后，“仍然只有一定数量的守门人有力量，仍在举办演出。”要回答您的问题，我没有回答这个问题。什么都没有改变，一切都变化了。CHEDY在不衰老的情况下享有声誉。这适用于“我爱露西”吗？关于“我爱露西”有几件事使它无法观看。一个是“我爱露西”并没有真正涉足政治性的东西。但是他们确实留在了这个家庭关系世界中，当然，当您观看50年代非常具体的性别角色时，有时候您会喜欢“嗯……。有趣的。” “我爱露西”是St的另一个原因生病是可以观看的，就是它开始了一切。这是许多情景喜剧场所的Suis Generis，我们仍在观看的表演。它具有固有的电视DNA：出了点问题。有误会。我们该如何修复？让我们疯狂吧。好的，亲吻和化妆。学习令人惊讶吗？露西（Lucy）长大了，通过友谊和建议，也是通过她的存在真正的支持。我听到了很多关于她出现的故事，看着玛丽·泰勒·摩尔（Mary Tyler Moore）拍摄了她的表演，看着贝特·米德勒（Bette Midler）和后台，成为年轻的卡罗尔·伯内特（Carol Burnett）的真正冠军，并通过参加她的表演来支持她。她与其他年轻的喜剧演员和演员，尤其是女性的慷慨大方，没有足够的谈论。我发现她花了很多时间在工作坊里花了很多时间，试图指导年轻人，笑 - 只是去参加人们的表演并笑。我的意思是，您能想象在观众嘲笑您的作品中有红色头发露西一定有多好吗？您现在在专业上有什么兴趣？这是2022年要回答的一个很好的存在问题。我喜欢生产。自私地，我喜欢听露西（Lucy）和德西（Desi）谈论他们如何支持其他节目，因为有一种非常特别的感觉，即从表演山的底部进行表演。我确实与露西和德西谈论他们的Desilu家庭的关系，当然，我不是Desilu Productions - 有一次，我认为他们在播出40场演出或发展中。但是，我了解以我的微小方式使某种盛开和成长的感觉。这是一种很棒的感觉。我想做很多不同的事情。 [Poehler的Paper Kite Productions]正在制作电影，动画等我电视。我们正在与伟大的人一起做很多不同的事情。而且我只想继续做更多的事情。您是否可以进入网络或工作室头并获得GreenLit项目的位置？您的意思是，就像将我的手伸到桌子上吗？ [笑]业务一直在变化。我真的试图让我的工作说话。我想认为我有良好的表演记录并希望使表演能够正常工作。每个人的生活现在都变成了一个小时的戏剧。或者，我应该说是两年的戏剧。我尽量不要限制自己想成为哪种制作人或演员。我的口味无处不在。什么是喜剧？什么是戏剧？谁说？一切都在大汤中。当它不恐怖时，它很美味。在我看来，您和蒂娜·菲（Tina Fey）是有史以来最好的两个节目主持人。您会举办奥斯卡奖吗？哦，我认为这是另一回事。这是一个岛时间。再说一次，谁知道任何东西会……一切都在各个方面都真正融合了。我愿意所有的事情。我试图对所有事物保持开放的态度。这些天你在看什么？好吧，这几天是什么？我们将在大流行的两年内出现。一开始，每个人都退缩到了给他们安慰的节目中。我认为这在社会学层面上令人着迷。然后是这个分支。我正在尝试考虑我最近看过的东西。我们正在为“俄罗斯娃娃”第二季做好准备，这是娜塔莎·莱昂（Natasha Lyonne）令人难以置信的巡回演出，所以我再次观看了所有这些情节，以准备发射。和玛雅·鲁道夫·安迪·桑伯格（Maya Rudolph Andy Samberg）“烘烤”，我正在和家人一起看。我注意到您有个人资料，但尚未发布任何内容。我不发布Tiktok，但我喜欢它。这是我见过的最好的喜剧。尤其是在大流行期间，是一个V我很有趣的回家方式，但并不孤单。我喜欢。这是非常鼓舞和创造力的。 - 零食：鼻拭子
Believe it or not (actually, it’s probably easy to believe), there was a time when pregnant women were deemed too risqué for broadcast television. That changed when Lucille Ball was memorably rushed to the hospital to give birth on "I Love Lucy," the groundbreaking sitcom that co-starred her real-life husband Desi Arnaz and left an indelible mark on show business.
"Lucy and Desi," a new documentary from director Amy Poehler, explores the unlikely rise to fame and enduring legacy of two comedy icons who broke barriers and subverted expectations about what it means to be an all-American couple. In advance of the movie's premiere at Sundance Film Festival on Jan. 22, the former "Saturday Night Live" and "Parks and Recreation" star spoke to Variety about her deep dive into all things Ball and Arnaz, the impressive longevity of "I Love Lucy" -- a show that debuted in 1951 and continues to find fans in reruns -- and her affinity for TikTok.
What interested you in directing a documentary about Lucy and Desi?
Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz, over the years, have been kind of flattened out and made two dimensional. I was really interested in seeing the people behind the images. People use words like "genius" and "icon" and "trailblazer," but those aren't human words. [Laughs] Those were words for machines and astronauts, which -- they were both astronauts, for sure, and they were ahead of their time. But they were also people.
How much did you know about Lucy and Desi's personal lives before you started your research?
I knew about them as performers, not as people. These two incredible outsiders worked hard to become powerful, influential figures at a time when women and immigrants were not running the system. But at the end of the day, the attempt was to tell a love story: Their long journey of falling in love, working, and staying in love with each other through thick and thin was echoed in their show. And then to watch America's most powerful couple -- they created the idea of a power couple -- split up after being on TV, as this example of how things will always be OK, it was interesting. So much is made of their work and comedy, and it should be. But I also think it is also an equal triumph to have a relationship that was the kind that they had. It is hard to maintain a working relationship, as well as a relationship with someone you love and is your partner in raising kids.
The structure of Hollywood and the studio system is very different now. What stands out to you about the way the entertainment industry has changed?
[The way] power was kept held, hoarded, and traded. There is, thank goodness, some more straight up access to things. The questions, the judgments, and the projections we make about women, working women, especially working mothers, has not changed that much. I was like, "Wow, what a different industry we're in. There's so much opportunity, especially for people of color." And then also like, "Oh, we're just doing the same stuff. We're making the same assumptions about people." It was a strange combination of, "Look how far we've come" and then also, "There's still only a certain amount of gatekeepers who have power, who are still running the show." To answer your question, I'm not answering the question. Nothing's changed, and everything's changed.
Comedy has a reputation for not aging well. Does that apply to "I Love Lucy"?
There are a couple things about "I Love Lucy" that keep it from being tough to watch. One is that "I Love Lucy" didn't really go into topical, political stuff. But they did stay in this domestic-relationship world that -- certainly, when you watch the very specific gender roles of the '50s come into play -- there are times when you're like, "Ummm.... interesting." The other reason why "I Love Lucy" is still so watchable is that it started everything. It's the suis generis of so many sitcom premises and shows we still watch. It has this inherent television DNA: Something went wrong. There was a misunderstanding. How can we fix it? Let's go crazy. OK, kiss and make up.
Your film notes that Lucy mentored younger comedians and actors. Was that surprising to learn?
Lucy, as she got older, was really supportive, through friendship and advice, but also through her presence. I heard so many stories of her showing up and watching Mary Tyler Moore shoot her show, watching Bette Midler and going backstage, being a genuine champion of young Carol Burnett and supporting her by being on her show. Her generosity with other young comedians and actors, especially women, is not talked about enough. I found it really inspiring that she spent a lot of her later life doing workshops, trying to mentor young people, and laughing -- just going to people's shows and laughing. I mean, can you imagine how much good it must have felt to have red hair Lucy in the audience laughing at your work?
You've dabbled in sketch comedy, hosting, acting on TV and in movies and directing. What interests you professionally now?
That's a great existential question to answer for 2022. I love producing. Selfishly, I loved listening to Lucy and Desi talk about how they supported other shows because there is this very special feeling about being with a show from the bottom of show mountain. I really related to when Lucy and Desi talked about their Desilu family and, certainly, I'm not Desilu Productions -- at one point, I think they had 40 shows on the air or in development. But I understand what it feels like, in my small way, to make something blossom and grow. It's a great feeling. I want to do a bunch of different stuff. [Poehler's Paper Kite Productions] is doing film, animation and some TV. We're doing a bunch of different things with great people. And I just want to keep doing more of that.
Are you in a position where you can just go to a network or studio head and get a project greenlit?
You mean like just slam my hand on the desk? [Laughs] The business is always changing. I really try to have my work speak for itself. I'd like to think I have a good track record of making shows and hopefully making shows work.
Would you ever veer into dramatic work?
The world has been a little serious. Everybody's lives have turned into an hour-long drama right now. Or, I should say, a two-year drama. I try not to limit myself as to what kind of producer or actor I want to be. My tastes are all over the place. What is comedy? What is drama? Who's to say? Everything's in a big old soup. When it's not terrifying, it's delicious.
In my opinion, you and Tina Fey are two of the best award show hosts ever. Would you host the Oscars?
Oh, I think that's a different deal. It's an interesting time. So again, who knows what any of that stuff will... Everything feels like it's truly in flux in every way. I'm open to all things. I try to keep an open mind to all things.
What are you watching these days?
Well, what are these days? We're coming up in two years of the pandemic. In the very beginning, everybody retreated to the shows that gave them comfort. I thought it was fascinating on a sociological level. Then there was this branching out. I'm trying to think of something that I've watched recently. We're gearing up for "Russian Doll" season two, which is this incredible tour de force performance by Natasha Lyonne, so I've been watching all of those episodes again to get ready for the launch. And "Baking It" with Maya Rudolph Andy Samberg, I'm watching with my family.
Are you on TikTok? I noticed you have a profile but haven't posted anything.
I don't post on TikTok, but I love it. It's some of the best comedy out there I've seen. Especially during the pandemic, it was a very interesting way to be home but not feel alone. I dig it. It's very inspiring and creative.
Things you didn’t know about Amy Poehler:
Age: 50 Birthplace: Burlington, Mass. Favorite "I Love Lucy" episode: All of them Movie that always makes her cry: "Terms of Endearment" Best on-set snack: Nasal swabs
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