纪录片自媒体解说素材-新闻动态参考-“奥巴马：追求更完美的联盟”电影制片人耶利米·赖特（Jeremiah Wright），前总统及其决定收集政治噪音的决定/‘Obama: In Pursuit of a More Perfect Union’ Filmmakers on Jeremiah Wright, the Former President and Their Decision to Tune Out Political Noise
https://cdn.6867.top:6867/A1A/hddoc/news/2022/07/0506/0712a200xmpmhs4.jpg“奥巴马：追求更完美的联盟”电影制片人耶利米·赖特（Jeremiah Wright），前总统及其决定收集政治噪音的决定
‘Obama: In Pursuit of a More Perfect Union’ Filmmakers on Jeremiah Wright, the Former President and Their Decision to Tune Out Political Noise
纪录片制片人彼得·昆哈特（Peter Kunhardt）于2014年开始研究HBO的“奥巴马：追求更完美的联盟”，而前总统仍在白宫。纽约客的作家兼执行制片人杰拉尼·科布（Jelani Cobb）在这部三部分的纪录片上的作家耶拉尼·科布（Jelani Cobb）花了四年的时间研究和发现了奥巴马的稀有且从未见过的档案片段，然后在2018年开发之前。 39次访谈包括Cobb，已故国会议员John Lewis，Valerie Jarrett，David Axelrod，Al Sharpton牧师以及耶利米·赖特牧师在制作过程中。麦凯恩：HBO的钟声响亮，以审查和批评前总统的个人和政治旅程以及美国的种族历史。目的：“通过批判性的眼睛看奥巴马，但不要陷入这一切的政治中”说。COBB说，它将奥巴马描绘成“做正确的事，但也犯了错误的人”，同时对沿途发生的事情进行了公平的评估。该系列赛在8月3日首次亮相的前一天，前总统的前一天才60岁。.Kunhardt和Cobb与综艺节目谈到了他们决定不采访奥巴马的系列赛，赖特牧师的坦率以及前总统是否看过该系列的决定。这张纪录片中有很多人说话的负责人，但巴拉克·奥巴马（Barack Obama）不是他们。这是故意的还是他拒绝接受采访？计划最终是为了采访他，但是当我们开始采访人们时，我们意识到我们有很多奥巴马在谈论自己（通过档案录像），我们真的不需要新的采访。我们宁愿从他说的时间段来接受他的话。您采访的人以前从未在镜头前谈论奥巴马总统。他们是谁？昆哈特：自2008年（“该死的美国”）丑闻以来，耶利米·赖特牧师从未说过。他可能是最不愿大声疾呼的人。我们还采访了奥巴马的女友Genevieve Ahearne- 从他在哥伦比亚大学的日子开始，他们以前从未公开讲过。他要求他的员工，他的朋友和其他人与我们合作。因此，这就是我们进行如此广泛的访谈的原因之一 - 因为他支持该项目。访谈的某些人，尤其是与Cornel West教授的采访，令人惊讶的是坦率。您是否希望对象对奥巴马如此直率？昆哈特（Kunhardt）：接受采访的人对他的故事开放和诚实，我认为部分原因是时间。对于M几年前，当然可以谈论他，当然他在办公室里，但我认为时间在我们身边等待了这么长时间。在他的起源之前听说过。公众有一种感觉，他无处不在，因为成为一个不知名的人，然后成为参议员，然后当总统之间存在很短的时间。但是那些早年的那些人有话要说。在系列赛中，赖特牧师透露，在2008年丑闻破裂之后，奥巴马对他说：“你知道你的问题是什么吗？作为传教士，您必须说实话。”我很惊讶他泄露了谈话。你是吗？昆哈特：那是一个有力的时刻，因为他不必说那个声明的另一面。我认为，有权衡是政治家，奥巴马将是第一个承认这一点的人，并承认他不能确定他的牧师可能会让奥巴马感到沮丧。但是他周围有护栏，他不得不留在那些铁路上。约翰·麦凯恩（John McCain）和莎拉·佩林（Sarah Palin）都通过2008年总统大选的档案录像中介绍了该系列赛。您是否与佩林或共和党中的任何人接触？在（2008）竞选期间有很多事情。我们想从奥巴马的角度和可以帮助填补他的故事的人们深入了解这个故事。但是在他的整个竞选中和他的总统任期中都有太多的噪音，我们故意避免了这种重现的噪音。在系列赛中，我们听到佩林在2008年挖掘奥巴马。当时她的言论似乎与特朗普期间看到的相比，这似乎没什么2016年竞选办公室。在特朗普的总统胜利方面，ing在墙上？科布：在看电影时，我认为有些事情让你走了，‘嗯。'如果我们当时只知道线索。因此，历史有助于启发现在，在这种情况下，这种相对较新的历史对我们现在所生活的世界产生了巨大的洪水影响。Kunhardt：世界“线索”是关键。当时您不认识线索。 The country was so caught off guard when Trump was elected, but if you actually go back and look at the clues leading up to it, it's not as surprising as it seemed at the time.Was it a conscientious decision not to make this series in给奥巴马的一封情书吗？昆哈特：是的。我们不想制作一些绒毛，我们不希望它觉得我们是奥巴马的故事和他的观点的演讲者。我们想通过批判性的眼睛看他，但不要陷入这一切的政治中。相反，我们试图更深入地挖掘站在他来自哪里以及他与之反对的地方。现在，他的美德比以前更为明显。我们不需要提醒人们他们错过了他的东西，因为随后的总统职位在强调奥巴马中人们钦佩的事情方面做得非常出色。因此，真正的价值是将他视为一个人，是一个政治演员，作为一个做正确事，但也犯错的人，并对那些时代发生的事情进行了更加公平的评估。奥巴马支持该项目。他看过这个系列吗？昆哈特：我们不知道。几周前我们完成了该系列的链接，但我们没有回来。“奥巴马：追求更完美的工会”，8月3日星期二在HBO上首次亮相。
Documentary filmmaker Peter Kunhardt began working on HBO’s “Obama: In Pursuit of a More Perfect Union” in 2014, while the former president was still in the White House. The director-exec producer and Jelani Cobb, a writer for the New Yorker and exec producer on this three-part docuseries, spent four years researching and discovering rare and never-before-seen archival footage of Obama before filming commenced in 2018. Kunhardt conducted 39 interviews with a wide range of people including Cobb, late Congressman John Lewis, Valerie Jarrett, David Axelrod, Rev. Al Sharpton as well as Rev. Jeremiah Wright during the course of production.
The diverse voices allowed Kunhardt, who previously directed “John McCain: From Whom the Bell Tolls” for HBO, to examine and critique the former president’s personal and political journey, as well as the United States’ fraught racial history. The goal: to look at Obama “through a critical eye, but not get bogged down in the politics of it all,” Kunhardt says.
Cobb says it portrays Obama as "a person who did things right, but also made mistakes" while offering an even-handed assessment of what happened along the way.
The series debuts Aug. 3, the day before the former president turns 60.
Kunhardt and Cobb spoke to Variety about their decision to not interview Obama for the series, Rev. Wright’s candidness and whether or not the former president has seen the series.
There are many talking heads in this docuseries, but Barack Obama is not one of them. Was that intentional or did he declined to be interviewed?
Kunhardt: We made a bunch of trips to the White House and met with his team while he was still in office. The plan was to eventually interview him, but by the time we got down to interviewing people, we realized that we had so much of Obama speaking about himself (via archival footage) that we really didn't need a new interview. We preferred to take his words from the time periods when he said them.
Some of the people who you interviewed had never spoken on camera about President Obama before. Who were they?
Kunhardt: Reverend Jeremiah Wright had not spoken out since the 2008 (“God damn America”) scandal. He was probably the most reluctant to speak out. We also interviewed Obama's girlfriend – Genevieve Ahearne -- from his days at Columbia University who had not spoken out publicly before.
How did you convince them and the 37 other people you interviewed to speak with you on camera?
Kunhardt: (Obama) was very helpful in that he asked his staff, his friends and other people to cooperate with us. So, that’s one of the reasons we have such a wide range of interviews -- because he was supportive of the project.
Some of the interviews, especially the one with professor Cornel West, are surprisingly candid. Were you expecting subjects to be so forthright about Obama?
Kunhardt: The (people) interviewed were open and honest about his story I think partly because of time. It would have been hard for them to talk about him a few years ago and certainly when he was in office, but I think time worked on our side by waiting so long.
Cobb: The people we interviewed about Obama’s early days in Chicago were notably more candid than anything we had heard before about his origins. There was a sense in the public that he came from nowhere because there was a short period of time between being an unknown person, then being a Senator and then being the President. But those people in his early years, they had a lot to say.
In the series, Reverend Wright reveals that after the 2008 scandal broke Obama said to him: “You know what your problem is? As a preacher you have to speak the truth.” I was surprised he divulged that conversation. Were you?
Kunhardt: That was a powerful moment because he didn't have to say the other side of that statement. There are trade-offs being a politician and Obama, I think, would be the first to acknowledge that and admit that he couldn’t say certain things that his Reverend could, which was probably frustrating to Obama. But he had guardrails around him, and he had to stay within those rails.
John McCain and Sarah Palin are both featured in the series via archival footage from the 2008 presidential campaign. Did you reach out to Palin or anyone in the Republican party for an interview?
Kunhardt: We did not reach to the Republicans because we did not want this series to become a ‘he-said, she-said’ series. There was so much of that during the (2008) campaign. We wanted to dive deep into understanding the story from Obama's perspective and the people who could help fill in his story. But there was so much noise throughout his campaign and throughout his presidency that we purposely avoided this recreating that noise.
In the series we hear Palin digging into Obama back in 2008. Her rhetoric back then seems like nothing in comparison to what we saw during Trump’s run for office in 2016. When making this series did you feel like the writing was on the wall in terms of Trump’s presidential victory?
Cobb: In watching the film I think there are things that make you go, ‘Hmm.’ If we had only known the clues at that time. So, history serves to enlighten the present and, in this instance, this really relatively recent history has a huge flood light effect on the world we're living in right now.
Kunhardt: The world “clue” is key. At the time you don't recognize the clues. The country was so caught off guard when Trump was elected, but if you actually go back and look at the clues leading up to it, it's not as surprising as it seemed at the time.
Was it a conscientious decision not to make this series in any way a love letter to Obama?
Kunhardt: Yes. We did not want to make some fluff piece and we did not want it to feel like we were speakers for Obama’s story and his point of view. We wanted to look at him through a critical eye, but not get bogged down in the politics of it all. Instead, we tried to dig down deeper to understand where he was coming from and what he was up against.
Cobb: The value of this series was the ability to look at Obama with some distance. His virtues are more obvious now than they were they were before. We didn’t need to remind people of what they missed in him because the subsequent presidency did an amazing job of highlighting what people admired in Obama. So, the real value was looking at him as a human being, as a political actor, as a person who did things right, but also made mistakes, and offering a more even-handed assessment of what happened in those times.
You mentioned earlier that Obama was supportive of the project. Has he seen the series?
Kunhardt: We don't know. We sent a link to him when we finished the series a couple of weeks ago but we havn't heard back.
"Obama: In Pursuit of a More Perfect Union" debuts Tuesday, Aug. 3, on HBO.
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